Autor Thema: Virtueller Waldbaumbann  (Gelesen 14772 mal)

Eldkatten

  • Zweitwohnsitz WurzelWerk
  • *******
  • Beiträge: 1599
  • Geschlecht: Männlich
Re: Virtueller Waldbaumbann
« Antwort #16 am: 11. November 2008, 15:49 »
Gibt´s in diesem Baumforum auch noch andere Mitglieder außer diesem schiefen Hollerbusch?
/>
Naja, mindestens Hasenfrau und Geza. Vermutlich noch ein paar andere, aber etwa bei "Tannenzäpfle" liegt der Verdacht sehr nahe, dass es wiederum Waldbaum in anderem Laub ist.
/>
/>Es lohnt sich aber doch mal, den einen oder anderen Thread zu lesen, um ein Bild davon zu bekommen, wie sich Waldbaum ein niveauvolles Forum vorstellt und wie er das vermutlich auch hier gerne gehabt hätte: Dreizeilen-Postings, umfangreiche Kopien aus Wikipedia oder anderen frei zugänglichen Quellen (zu sattsam bekannten Themen wie "Namenstage"; und dann voll Staunen von anderen Teilnehmer/inne/n kommentiert mit "Du weisst aber viel!" oder "Das ist aber eine Menge zu lesen!"), und seichtes Gerede. Wäre sicher interessantes Material für eine soziologische Studie.
/>
/>So sehr mich das Konzept des Wurzelwerk-Forums auch fasziniert - obwohl ich mich selbst oft genug daran gestossen habe, etwa in Sachen Geza, Bjarka und Knobiator - und so grossen Respekt vor Anufa Elhorn ich hatte und habe, zu diesem Konzept felsenfest zu stehen, befürchte ich doch, dass ein solches an Nutzertypen wie Waldbaum - und Geza, Bjarka und Knobiator - scheitert.
/>Gerade mit Blick auf die Zukunft sollten wir uns wirklich intensivst mit der Frage befassen, wie solchen Störungen am besten zu begegnen ist. So attraktiv Sperrungen kurzfristig auch sein mögen, so wenig nachhaltig sind sie ja, und haben immer mindestens einen leichten Geruch der Willkür an sich. Was also tun im Nachfolge-Forum?
/>
/>Schönen Gruss
/>Herbert

/>Meine Beiträge geben ausschliesslich meine persönliche Meinung wieder, nicht die des Vereins Varnenum e.V (www.varnenum.de).

rivka

  • WurzelWerk Mitglied und Autor/in
  • ****
  • Beiträge: 4150
Re: Virtueller Waldbaumbann
« Antwort #17 am: 11. November 2008, 16:09 »
Was tun? Ich weis, ich mach das jetzt schon zum -zigsten Mal, aber die Forenregeln der Leaky Lounge finde ich in grossen Teilen äusserst brauchbar:
/>
/>
Zitat
By posting in the Leaky Lounge, you agree to the following rules:
/>
/>1. Be nice. This is our most important and most strictly enforced rule. We respect and embrace everyone's right to disagree and the spirited discussions that come out of differences of opinion, but there is never an excuse to be rude/derogatory/insulting. Offending comments (and words) will be deleted right away and the offender warned; those who persist will be banned. The TLC forum, like the TLC comments, is to be a place where enthusiastic and intelligent minds can come together, something no one can do while fighting. Please take a moment to remember that without differences of opinion the world would be a very boring place.
/>Related: What is a flame? Flaming is outlawed on the TLC board. Flaming is different from criticism: criticism points out something that could be improved. Disagreement is not a flame. Flaming includes but is not limited to insults or harassment of others based on actual or perceived gender, sexual orientation, age, race, ethnicity, religion, magical status or lack thereof, Hogwarts house, national origin, political affiliation, character preference, or "ship" preference. Do not post a comment that is that is unlawful, harmful, threatening, abusive, harassing, tortuous, defamatory, vulgar, obscene, libelous, invasive of another's privacy or hateful.
/>Related: What is considered inappropriate? Anything in a post/signature/profile TLC deems inappropriate will be deleted. We do not condone the discussion, displaying or description of material that is above what most consider a PG-13 rating.This means no vulgar or coarse language, including efforts to get around a coarse language filter. Although topics that discuss religion, race, or sexuality as they pertain to the Harry Potter series (or directly to the topic at hand) are acceptable, no racial, religious, or sexually inflammatory language will be tolerated. Nothing sexually explicit, vulgar, incest-related or relating to adult/child relationships shall be condoned.
/>Related: Political and Religious Topics General or specific topics on religion or politics are only allowed on the Leaky Lounge if they are directly related to the portrayal of such in the Harry Potter series or else are within the Muggle Underground forum (see MU policies here).
/>
/>2. Respect privacy. Do not post anything that contains telephone numbers, addresses or any private (i.e. not reported in the press) information about any actor in the HP films, J.K. Rowling, person who works on the HP franchise, or any other forum member. Don't ask in topics for members' e-mail responses or e-mail addresses.
/>Related: Member Privacy Leaky's Privacy Policy can be found here. In addition, we strive to maintain an atmosphere in which all members and staff members feel comfortable posting here on The Leaky Lounge. If a member is contacting you and you don't feel comfortable with that contact, please alert a moderator, the moderator manager, or a forum administrator. You are always able to block any forum member from contacting you via pm or email.
/>If you are asked not to contact a member (either by a staff member or the member themselves), we ask that you respect that member's right to privacy and allow them to post comfortably on the forum. This includes not contacting them via pm or emailing them from the forum, viewing that member's profile, posting in their comments, asking others to contact them on your behalf, or using the member's names in posts or signatures.
/>
/>3. Stay on topic. We let the comments on TLC wander sometimes because until now there has been nowhere else for our readers to chat. As there is a place on these forums to talk about anything, there is less room for going off-topic. If you go off-topic a moderator may move your post to the appropriate board without warning. If there is nowhere to discuss what you want to discuss, let us know at our Room of Requirement and we'll try and find a place.
/>
/>4. Don't use the forums as a promotion tool. Links are allowed in your signatures and profiles, but any posts that incorporate commercial advertising, plugs for your Web site/fanfic/fan art/message board/surveys/mailing list, unless directly related to the subject matter of the topic, will be immediately deleted. Do not use the forum to urge readers to convert to a belief or sign a petition. Do not use the private message (PM) system to tell people to visit your site; you will get complained about and banned. Do not link to any inappropriate sites, even in your signature/profile.
/>Related: Solicitation No solicitation of contact information, asking members to join other forums, boards, or chats, and absolutely no attempts to sell products or services will be tolerated.

/>
Wir würden uns für unsere Meinungen nicht verbrennen lassen: wir sind ihrer nicht so sicher. Aber vielleicht dafür, daß wir unsere Meinungen haben dürfen und ändern dürfen.
/>
/>(Nietzsche)

rivka

  • WurzelWerk Mitglied und Autor/in
  • ****
  • Beiträge: 4150
Re: Virtueller Waldbaumbann
« Antwort #18 am: 11. November 2008, 16:12 »
Zitat
5. Don't spam. Spam posts will be removed. If the moderators have reason to believe a user is padding the forum with exceedingly short posts to up his/her post count, that person will be temporarily banned. Persistence after the first banning will result in permanent exclusion from the forums.
/>Related: What is spam? Spam includes posts that do not contribute a new idea, perspective, or concept to the discussion, and are often made in order to simply increase the member's post count.
/>Related: Consecutive posts Please use the edit function instead of making consecutive posts. Consecutive posts made within 24 hours of one another will be merged to reduce loading problems for people with dial-up internet and keep things organized.
/>
/>6. Watch your language. And we don't just mean naughty words. The Leaky Lounge adheres to the generally accepted standards of netiquette, or internet etiquette; we understand that typos happen and that not everyone has mastered English grammar (or even the language -- TLC's audience reaches around the world), but net-speak is strictly forbidden. This includes things like "OMG GUYZ LYK that is SO KEWL!" and things that are sp3ld l1k3 th1s, or say things like, "R u there bcuz I want 2 talk”. These things are going to get deleted. Avoid use of all capitals in your writing as it is considered the equivalent of yelling at another member. Any phrase or post written in a language other than English must contain a translation of the non-English text within the same post. Please, to the best of your ability, use full words that everyone can understand, and the entire forum will remain a happy place.
/>
/>7. Limit the total size of your images. Image size is limited to enable The Lounge's pages to load more quickly. Larger images slow our loading time and clutter up the page.
/>Related: Total Signature Size Watch the size of your signature as well. Signature sizes are limited to five lines (this includes blank lines).
/>Related: Font Size You can choose any of Leaky's fonts to personalize your posts or signatures, but they must be no bigger than size three in BB code.
/>Related: Hotlinking Using images hosted on non-hosting sites is not permitted. Unfortunately, we cannot verify each and every person’s image with their IP address, so we no longer allow users to host images on their own website. ALL images must be hosted on a hosting site (e.g. PhotoBucket, ImageShack...).
/>
/>Images in signature: - your total image sizes of ALL images in your signature must not exceed 200 X 100 pixels. (for example, if you have two icons that are 100 X 100, then you are fine as long as they are side by side, but two icons that are 150 X 50 leaves your total pixel size in your signature at 300 X 100) Images in signatures must be side by side, and not stacked on top of each other as it makes the signature larger than most posts.
/>
/>Images in posts: - total image size in your posts can not be more then 300 X 300. Images in posts are also limited to no more then five (5) images per post. (for example, if you have five images in your post that are 100 X 100 each you are fine. If you have two images that are 200 X 100 then you have a total pixel count of 400 X 100, and that is too large)
/>
/>8. Read before posting. You don't have to have memorized the forum, but it is best if you give a read-through to discover if something you're about to post is already posted - ESPECIALLY when it comes to starting threads. Duplicate/redundant threads are going to be moved or closed.
/>
/>9. Make sure the subject fits the topic. If you want to talk about the wands each character gets and what they might mean, don't label your topic "Quidditch Brooms"! Try and be as specific to the discussion as you can - that way, you actually get to talk about what you intended to talk about! Otherwise, you might not get to talk about it at all; a mod may move or close the thread, or simply rename it for you.
/>
/>10. Make sure your topic adds something to the discussion. When starting a thread, it's important that it can be the springboard for an actual discussion. Starting with "I luv Dan Radcliffe!" or "Yo those HP moviez, they stink yo," isn't going to get you very far. "Game" threads will be closed.
/>
/>11. Do not post threads devoted to "ships." You are allowed to discuss HP's existing and future romantic pairings (known as "ships," a shortened version of "relationships") here, but they are not to be the subject of their own threads, as our experience with such has shown that they almost always degenerate into arguments/flames. We may consider altering this rule should our readers show us over time that possible romantic pairings are discussed in a non-inflammatory fashion. You may talk about any ship so long as it is not one that includes an adult/child or incestuous relationship.
/>
/>12. Don't be afraid to talk to the mods. If you feel someone is trolling/spamming, please report it to a mod. These reports help us tremendously to respond quickly to problems, and we always appreciate receiving them. Also, no one on the forum needs to know your real name, address, telephone number or other personally identifying information unless you choose to give it to them. All of our moderators are adults, and are here to make sure you have a safe and happy experience. If you feel you are being abused/violated by a member, PM or email a moderator, making sure to forward the posts/PMs/emails from the person in question. (We do require this proof to take action.)
/>
/>13. Respect moderators' decisions. We chose our moderators and administrators carefully. They will never treat your problems lightly - in exchange you must understand that their decisions are final.
/>
/>14. Don't spoil. We do not allow unofficial spoilers on the Leaky Lounge. CLICK RIGHT HERE to read our entire spoiler policy, which details what constitutes an unofficial spoiler and the consequences of posting spoilers.
/>
/>15. Don't role-play. Sorry guys. There's plenty of room for that in other places, in other forums; the Leaky Lounge is not a role-play arena.
/>Related: HP Character Names We don't allow members to choose names that are exactly the same as character names in order to avoid possible role-play.
/>
/>16. Check in here from time to time, because as the forum evolves, so will this list of rules. By posting you are bound by them, so it's best you know what we're making you promise.
/>
/>17. HAVE FUN! We have wanted to bring our readers a forum for a very long time, and are so very excited that it's finally come to fruition. We anticipate the TLC forums to be fun, friendly and intelligent, and look forward to chatting with you all! See you round the ol' Leaky!
/>
/>More fine print:
/>By posting on TLC's forums, you agree to indemnify and hold TLC, and its subsidiaries, affiliates or other partners, as well as its staff, harmless from any claim or demand, including reasonable attorneys' fees, made by any third party due to or arising out of comments you post on the forum.
/>Our forum is here for entertainment purposes only and posts should not be regarded as expert opinion. We are not responsible for the posts of our members. We do try to remove any posts as soon as possible that flame other members or break forum rules. This includes comments that break our privacy policy, or include spoilers on our site.
/>
/>Do not post comments if you are under 13 years of age. TLC strives to be in compliance with the Children's Online Privacy & Protection Act, also known as COPPA; accordingly, we cannot accept posts from children under 13. However, if you have a comment for us, or a news report, and you are under 13, you can email us at staff@the-leaky-cauldron.org.
/>
/>Rules Note: These rules are set up this way because we are a new forum, and as such we have to restrict ourselves to what we can accomplish. In the future these may change, as the forum settles in and we can do more.

/>(Abzüglich natürlich der Regeln, die speziell darauf Rücksicht nehmen, dass dort auch viele Kinder posten.)
/>
/>
/>Und es braucht natürlich ein gewisses Vertrauen in die Moderation, der man es überlässt (vertrauensvoll eben) die Qualität von Beiträgen zu beurteilen. Nicht alles kann man in ein für allemal gültige, meist nur das Formale und Quantitative betreffende Regeln fassen.
/>
/>Was das Sperren betrifft, natürlich lässt sich das machen...wieviel Computer hat denn einer zur Verfügung, um sich jeweils neu anzumelden? Wenn du in Foren wie der LL jedenfalls einmal gesperrt bist, kommst du vom eigenen PC aus nicht mehr rein, egal, unter welcher Email-Adresse oder welchem Nick.
Wir würden uns für unsere Meinungen nicht verbrennen lassen: wir sind ihrer nicht so sicher. Aber vielleicht dafür, daß wir unsere Meinungen haben dürfen und ändern dürfen.
/>
/>(Nietzsche)

Boudicca

  • GelegenheitsWerkler/in
  • **
  • Beiträge: 25
  • Geschlecht: Weiblich
Re: Virtueller Waldbaumbann
« Antwort #19 am: 11. November 2008, 19:21 »
Ich kenne Waldbaum ja nicht, aber das er ein größeres Problem hat, ist offensichtlich. Teilweise habe ich Kommentare von ihm gelesen und ja, er ist so etwas wie ein Alleinunterhalter.
/>Da ich mit vielen PsychotherapeutInnen zusammenarbeite, würde ich ihm gerne eine/n empfehlen, ich denke, das wäre dringend notwendig und das meine ich jetzt in vollem Ernst.
/>Mit einem Bann belegen oder so etwas, mache ich nicht, denn wie war das nochmals, Dunkler Clown ... wünsche einer Person einfach das, was sie verdient. Das tue ich hiermit und dies ist kein Bann oder Derartiges.
/>Ich gehe sogar soweit, dass Waldbaum eventuell eine multiple Persönlichkeit ist oder Ansätze in diese Richtung hat. Sollte dies wirklich der Fall sein, wünsche ich ihm trotzallem, dass er wieder mit sich "eins" wird, und somit wird er dann auch nicht mehr Foren zuspammen oder andere Leute beleidigen.
/>
/>So, das ist mein Statement zu Waldbaum ... jede/r hat ihre/seine Meinung.  :) ;)
/>
/>Kraftvolle Grüße,
/>Boudicca

Doktor Mabuse

  • Zweitwohnsitz WurzelWerk
  • *******
  • Beiträge: 531
  • Geschlecht: Männlich
Re: Virtueller Waldbaumbann
« Antwort #20 am: 11. November 2008, 19:58 »
Ja, er ist sicher krank!
/>Aber das macht es nicht weniger mühsam. Ich habe einfach die Geduld nimmer, dass ich hier besonders empathisch bin.
/>wenn er eine therapie braucht - und die braucht er - dann muss er zu Allererst eine Krankheitseinsicht haben.
/>Und das bezweifle ich.
/>
/>LG DM

vitom

  • Zweitwohnsitz WurzelWerk
  • *******
  • Beiträge: 843
  • Geschlecht: Männlich
Re: Virtueller Waldbaumbann
« Antwort #21 am: 11. November 2008, 20:22 »
Zitat

/>Ich kenne Waldbaum ja nicht, ...
/>
/>

/>(Link entfernt. MfG DC )... ist das dieser Waldbaum?
/>
/>
« Letzte Änderung: 11. November 2008, 23:24 von Dunkler_Clown »
Die keltische Religion - Meine Vorstellung von einem trinitären Monismus setzt ein unistisches [magisches] Weltbild voraus

eald

  • Zweitwohnsitz WurzelWerk
  • *******
  • Beiträge: 829
  • Geschlecht: Männlich
Re: Virtueller Waldbaumbann
« Antwort #22 am: 11. November 2008, 21:08 »
Was ich von Waldbaums Auswüchsen halte sagte ich glaube ich schon mehrfach. Bezüglich seiner Abschlussposts mag man meine diesbezügliche Meinung gerne » hier « ergründen. Was ich von 'Ban and Flame' halte, gleichwohl wie verständlich das auch immer scheinen mag, das sagte ich glaube ich auch schon. Waldbaum nervt häufig, ja!
/>
/>Castaneda lehrt in seinen Werken die kleinen Tyrannen des Alltags als Herausforderung einfach zu nehmen. :sneaky: Ich werd ihn ignorieren wo er nervt, leider inzwischen im Großteil seiner Posts, aber dennoch auch weiterhin offen sein, meine Meinung ihm gegenüber fallweise zu revidieren. Bann? Ohne mich! Das er nervt, das wird er auch so merken. Ich wünsch ihm, ähnlich Boudicca, das er die Kurve kriegt. Mehr aber nicht.
/>
/>Der einzige Grund das ich überhaupt reagier: Wenn Bjarka oder Geza Realnamen aus ihren Hüten Zaubern (und Schrödingerkatzen :laugh:) und derley, uns alle damit in kollektive Angs - äh ... Ehrfurcht zu stürzen, so gibts [zu Recht] stets das große Trara! Egal was die Forenregeln nun dazu sagen - um dem gleich mal vorwegzugreifen - Bilder von Waldbaum an dieser Stelle einzustreuen [gleich ob vermeintlich oder auch nicht] find ich nichtdestotrotz grad nur noch - peinlich (... und zwar nicht für Waldbaum jetzt)!

A.

  • Zweitwohnsitz WurzelWerk
  • *******
  • Beiträge: 1193
  • Geschlecht: Männlich
Re: Virtueller Waldbaumbann
« Antwort #23 am: 11. November 2008, 21:50 »
Stimmt schon Eald!
/>
/>(Vor allem:)
/>Das mit dem (vermeintlichen) Bild muß nicht sein.
/>Egal wie sehr der User uns/mir am Sack geht.
/>
/>Aber...es "muß" auch erlaubt sein seinen Unmut auszudrücken.
/>Vor allem, wenn derartige Miesmachereien und schlechte Nachrede verbreitet wird.
/>Und SPAM. Und dann noch von sich selbst zu meinen offen und freundlich zu sein...und im gleichen Satz
/>noch über jemanden übel herziehen.
/>
/>Ich erlaube mir es auch so intolerant zu sein, daß ich nicht mit jedem
/>in einem Forum/Zimmer/Boot/wasauchimmer verweilen möchte.
/>Wenn derjenige mich vom Gegenteil überzeugt, ändere ich gerne meine Meinung.
/>
/>Ciao,
/>        A.